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	<title>Comments on: Gripped by Sunlight: The Education of a Secoya Shaman</title>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://qarrtsiluni.com/2006/09/15/gripped-by-sunlight-the-education-of-a-secoya-shaman/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Sep 2006 01:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for that story, Rachel.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that story, Rachel.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Barenblat</title>
		<link>http://qarrtsiluni.com/2006/09/15/gripped-by-sunlight-the-education-of-a-secoya-shaman/#comment-899</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel Barenblat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Sep 2006 10:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the summer of 1991 I spent six weeks in Ecuador with the School for Field Studies, studying ethnobotany (to the extent that a high school student can.) I was enthralled and it was an amazing experience.

Perhaps the pinnacle of the trip came at the end, when we had the opportunity to be guests at an ayahuasca ceremony. The shaman&#039;s visions told him that one of our colleagues had recently had a tumor removed but that part of it was still there. None of us knew anything about it, but she began to shake and cry immediately, and later medical investigation showed that he was right. Mostly what I remember is the tobacco smoke and the smell of the river. It&#039;s been a long time now.

Anyway, your piece took me back there. Thanks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the summer of 1991 I spent six weeks in Ecuador with the School for Field Studies, studying ethnobotany (to the extent that a high school student can.) I was enthralled and it was an amazing experience.</p>
<p>Perhaps the pinnacle of the trip came at the end, when we had the opportunity to be guests at an ayahuasca ceremony. The shaman&#8217;s visions told him that one of our colleagues had recently had a tumor removed but that part of it was still there. None of us knew anything about it, but she began to shake and cry immediately, and later medical investigation showed that he was right. Mostly what I remember is the tobacco smoke and the smell of the river. It&#8217;s been a long time now.</p>
<p>Anyway, your piece took me back there. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
		<link>http://qarrtsiluni.com/2006/09/15/gripped-by-sunlight-the-education-of-a-secoya-shaman/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 14:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill, I&#039;m glad you liked the blue jade piece. Maybe you were aware of the original story when it broke. I definitely enjoyed the beliefs and practices of the people I encountered--the mystical millionaire, the curious curator, the philosophical poor people and the rest.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill, I&#8217;m glad you liked the blue jade piece. Maybe you were aware of the original story when it broke. I definitely enjoyed the beliefs and practices of the people I encountered&#8211;the mystical millionaire, the curious curator, the philosophical poor people and the rest.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://qarrtsiluni.com/2006/09/15/gripped-by-sunlight-the-education-of-a-secoya-shaman/#comment-897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Sep 2006 05:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just read your delightful investigation of Meso-
American jade.  Nice work.  Very thorough and helpful clarification of the NY Times report of the scale of the Motagua deposit.  Thanks as well for providing  exposure to beliefs and practices of the complete cast of characters involved in that story, and this one as well.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just read your delightful investigation of Meso-<br />
American jade.  Nice work.  Very thorough and helpful clarification of the NY Times report of the scale of the Motagua deposit.  Thanks as well for providing  exposure to beliefs and practices of the complete cast of characters involved in that story, and this one as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Sep 2006 21:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lori, cheers. I&#039;m glad you enjoyed the virtual journey--a rainforest vacation without the bug bites.

Natalie, let me see if I can do some fine brush work to clarify details of Amazonian worldviews as I understand them. Yage provides a metaphorical trip or journey, and all journeys are educational in that on them, we encounter things we&#039;ve never seen before. Drinkers agree that when you drink yage, spirits in the area seem to gather to observe you and see what&#039;s happening. All those spirits have different personalities. Some are what&#039;s called evil, and the task of a good shaman leading a ceremony includes keeping them away. Failure to do so could expose the neophyte to their temptation. A shaman teaching students will also act as a guide for the students, bringing them toward higher levels of reality--defined as the levels where the good spirits live, the Ma&#039;temo Bai (Sky People or Heaven People), also called the Winiawai (=eternally youthful people?). These look like little multicolored humans with multiple crowns, and may be compared with angels; perhaps they&#039;re like another tribe of angels. &quot;Shamanic&quot; healing among the Secoyas is often effected through their agency. A third, related task for the shaman/teacher is to sing his or her visions into the cup of yage before handing it to the initiate, enabling the student to see as the teacher sees.

I find this kind of material very interesting, partly because, as you say, it&#039;s so far from our theories. Like everything, maybe, it raises more questions than it answers, and I hope to return to study it again one day. In the meantime, others continue to be more actively involved.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lori, cheers. I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed the virtual journey&#8211;a rainforest vacation without the bug bites.</p>
<p>Natalie, let me see if I can do some fine brush work to clarify details of Amazonian worldviews as I understand them. Yage provides a metaphorical trip or journey, and all journeys are educational in that on them, we encounter things we&#8217;ve never seen before. Drinkers agree that when you drink yage, spirits in the area seem to gather to observe you and see what&#8217;s happening. All those spirits have different personalities. Some are what&#8217;s called evil, and the task of a good shaman leading a ceremony includes keeping them away. Failure to do so could expose the neophyte to their temptation. A shaman teaching students will also act as a guide for the students, bringing them toward higher levels of reality&#8211;defined as the levels where the good spirits live, the Ma&#8217;temo Bai (Sky People or Heaven People), also called the Winiawai (=eternally youthful people?). These look like little multicolored humans with multiple crowns, and may be compared with angels; perhaps they&#8217;re like another tribe of angels. &#8220;Shamanic&#8221; healing among the Secoyas is often effected through their agency. A third, related task for the shaman/teacher is to sing his or her visions into the cup of yage before handing it to the initiate, enabling the student to see as the teacher sees.</p>
<p>I find this kind of material very interesting, partly because, as you say, it&#8217;s so far from our theories. Like everything, maybe, it raises more questions than it answers, and I hope to return to study it again one day. In the meantime, others continue to be more actively involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Natalie</title>
		<link>http://qarrtsiluni.com/2006/09/15/gripped-by-sunlight-the-education-of-a-secoya-shaman/#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Sep 2006 11:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nathan, what&#039;s especially fascinating about this - apart from the narrative itself - is the concept that education and in some sense, morality, can be absorbed physically, by drinking or eating particular substances. A far cry from all our &quot;civilised&quot; theories. Whether it really works or not, it&#039;s fantastic to read this account and their attitude to &quot;getting high&quot; is certainly a world away from that of recreational drug-takers in our part of the planet. Thanks for posting this illuminating account.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan, what&#8217;s especially fascinating about this &#8211; apart from the narrative itself &#8211; is the concept that education and in some sense, morality, can be absorbed physically, by drinking or eating particular substances. A far cry from all our &#8220;civilised&#8221; theories. Whether it really works or not, it&#8217;s fantastic to read this account and their attitude to &#8220;getting high&#8221; is certainly a world away from that of recreational drug-takers in our part of the planet. Thanks for posting this illuminating account.</p>
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		<title>By: Lori Witzel</title>
		<link>http://qarrtsiluni.com/2006/09/15/gripped-by-sunlight-the-education-of-a-secoya-shaman/#comment-894</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lori Witzel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for posting and sharing this -- I found myself in a deep green forest of luminous vision while taking a quick lunch-break at work.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting and sharing this &#8212; I found myself in a deep green forest of luminous vision while taking a quick lunch-break at work.</p>
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